youre right about not knowing whats in someone elses mind here. The example about people instigating was more elaboration about what ive seen as an inpatient in real life with people who did have thier intentions discussed in groups and among themselves. So i was suggesting that the behaviors COULD apply here- but are not open to the same kind of examination by all within the community. . . and its a handicap that we dont have the visual and vocal cues of face and body language and tone to help us understand each other. . .BTW i used to wear moccasins from the trading post but mostly went barefoot.