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Old May 04, 2009, 07:43 AM
Auroralso
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Hi Chaotic,

Ill try just respond to one area at a time.. ( lightbub..LOL)

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Originally Posted by sunrise View Post
Aurora, I know that ADHD often overlaps with other diagnoses, such as anxiety and depression. I hadn't heard of PTSD overlap though. I guess what I didn't like about that article is that it says giving ADHD treatment ot people who dissociate (=PTSD by their definition) is potentially harmful, but it didn't say why or what the consequences were. If a person does dissociate from time to time and has a lot of ADHD symptoms, why not try them on ADHD meds for a week and see how it goes. If it helps, then great! If it doesn't, then discontinue. Where's the harm?

You bring up some good questions . They didn't explain what the harm would be. They did state that some parents bring thier children in because they are distracted yet are covering up abuse.
I'm sure a few parents are not gonna be pleased to hear this.

If you give meds to someone who is doing both . having distraction due to adhd AND is dissociating because of trauma.
humm

well I know what the difference is inside for me but I have no idea what I look like when they are happening. My guess is that people have " Blank stare" or freeze when trying to
recapture a thought or trying to put things together to be bale to respond.
Or one might have a distant look if they are off thinking about something that is an offshoot of what they are originnaly talking about . that day dream distant look.

Dissociation with sexual trauma is a freezing of sorts a shutting down and maybe not knowing why or the need to supreess whats hapening because one is afraid.
this coud look like a blank stare or an abrupt looking away . someone staring off into the distance and not being able to speack .

they could look the same .

So the danger in that is that is that repressed trauma can go undetected and untreated . I think someone with DID could maybe appear the same way .

I don't know what woud happen to giving ritilin to a child who is dissocitive or an adult who has no awareness of past trauma .

I don't think I can tell if someone is dissociating. I dont think I have ever been around anyone who is . I just think people are staring off into the distance because they are thinking about something and theres no harm in that .
I have seen a person look away abruptly when I brought up a sensitive issue . I think it may have hit home . Thats a form of dissociating wanting to hide.

I think it must be very difficcult to tell .
If you have someone staring off into the distance and figetting .
well
again is the fidgeting from adhd because they fidgetied all thier life to help them focus?

my foot waggs a mile a minite when I read. or Im constantly moveing my feet against each other .
self soothing? or just figetting?

Im not stressed when Im reading most things. some things are yes . Most of the time Im trying to just be able to focus.

So I think this could be difficult to distinguish . And it depends on where a person is in thier trauma work .

asked me this back in 1982 and I would not have been able to distinguish .
but
gosh

is this a correct theory that trauma causes the lack of focus I have now?

I think its up to me really. Its my brain and body.I live day in and day out with.

I think your right. one needs to just be given meds and forget this other stuff and if it helps great if not, no one would want to be on something that does not help.

I do see the need for caution if someone is just starting out in therapy.

Patricia