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Old May 12, 2009, 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Christina86 View Post
I'm really good at manipulating people. I admit that, even if it's hard to. I'll manipulate people to be mean to me, because I feel I deserve it. I manipulate people to leave me, because I feel like I deserve to be abandoned again. I manipulate people to "care" about me. I manipulate people to sometimes stop me from hurting myself - I do it because even though it's hard for me to believe most of the time, I DESPERATELY want someone to care about me. Someone who is going to say "No" and who is going to care about me and love me for who I am - not for what I am, not for what someone can exploit from me... nothing like that.
oh gosh, christina, thank you so much for posting this . it scares me how much i can get people to do what i want, and then it gets me really upset sometimes when they don't. sometimes i worry that i am inadvertently manipulating people - like my pdoc, i need to stop seeing him because he is good and i am bad - but if i tell him that, then he convinces me i'm not, and it's ok to keep seeing him. but i worry that maybe he thinks i'm just saying all of that so i can hear that i'm not a bad person. maybe i'm just doing it for attention, or for an expression of caring or concern, or something.

i like him because he is nice to me, but i don't know what i do for him. i used to pay him, but now he sees me for free because i'm not working anymore. so sometimes i think i need to look pretty, or be entertaining, or do something that will make him like me. it is difficult because i'm not in control with this one, and i think you're right - manipulation is about control .

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Also, just because you're an "adult" now, doesn't mean you've emotionally been able to "grow up". We're sometimes stuck with childhood trauma and emotions and memories and other bad stuff... and that's kinda like emotionally "stunting" us. So we may LOOK like an adult, but sometimes we're still scared and alone and really really hurting. It sounds weird, but I think it's true... we need to "parent" and care for ourselves like we should have been in the past. We need to get through the bad stuff, and deal with it, in order to be happier and more "grounded".

but how do you learn to parent yourself? i do understand why no one wanted to look after me, so why should i do that for myself? more than that: it's like... i want to keep in touch with reality. if there is no one in my life who thinks i'm someone of worth enough to care about, and care about in a meaningful way (not just a thought from the other side of the world kind of caring), then maybe it really is the case that i'm not someone worth caring about. i dont want to delude myself otherwise, yknow?

thank you so much for replying, though, christina . it means the world to me that someone relates to parts of what i said. and can still see me as not tainted or bad because of it .