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Old May 16, 2009, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Luce View Post
Michah, mostly I am of the same opinion with regards to testosterone feulled footballers and their various sexcapades that one hears of from time to time... AND, initially I was just as horrified at this latest scandal as anyone else.

But then there was this:

http://www.odt.co.nz/sport/league/56...harks-sex-romp

A former work colleague of the woman at the centre of the Cronulla Sharks sex scandal in Christchurch involving Matthew Johns claims her co-worker bragged about the incident.
Tania Boyd has told the Nine Network that the woman in the ABC's Four Corners report, identified as "Clare", had boasted to her workmates about bedding several players and only contacted police five days after the alleged incident.
"She was absolutely excited about the fact. She was bragging about it to the staff and quite willing, openly saying how she had sex with several players," said Boyd.
"We were quite disgusted about it. There was no trauma whatsoever.
"I'm disgusted that a woman can all of a sudden change her story from having a great time to then turning it into a terrible crime.
"One minute she was absolutely bragging about it, she did not know names. These names only came to light to us in the last day.
"We all just thought it was hilarious until five days later the police came to work and were horrified she had now changed her story to say she was now a victim of crime.
"It was definitely consensual, absolutely.
"She is saying she is still traumatised etcetera, well she wasn't for five days, or four days at least, after that affair.
"I can't work out what's happened. Does it take five days for it to sink in?"
The woman told the ABC that the night in which she had group sex with several Cronulla players at a Christchurch hotel seven years ago left her with psychological damage and led her to abandoning her studies.
Psychiatrists reported that she was suicidal, had cut her wrists several times and bought a rope to hang herself.
She told the ABC she felt degraded and traumatised by the incident and despised the players involved.
Among the allegations aired on Monday, the woman said "___(edited)__" For years and years afterwards I was drinking a lot, crying a lot and losing a lot of friends and doing quite destructive things to myself and other people," she told the programme.
"At the end of it, I wasn't so much drinking heaps and heaps, I was more scared to go out of the house."
She said the destructive period lasted about four or five years and she was now speaking out to let the wives and girlfriends of those involved know what they had done.
"I was so angry and I wanted their lives destroyed like mine was," she said.
"If I had a gun I'd shoot them right now.
"I hate them. They disgust me. For all that they did, I hate them so much."

I don't know who is right and who is wrong.
But now I am not so eager to point fingers at Matthew Johns and scream "rapist!" as I once was.
Yep, I hear you......and if this was the case, for people who are genuinely making an rape claim it can make it so much harder for the alleged victim. Guilty, until proven innocent.

However, I wonder, if due to the trauma she was taking some of the control back due to her deep feelings of being completely disempowered and violated by making it seem like a pleasurable, heroic triumph......a bit of celebrity if you like to give the awful event some 'meaning" and that in her mind was the devestating thought that "she asked for it". and I think intitially, she did consent, but at some point did they listen if she did say no? Thats the problem, no-one really knows what went on.......there was no impartial witness, or not one willing to speak out.

Thanks for input, babe
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