ok - lets try to be supportive

I have a couple of points I would like to make.

First - PC is for support of everyone here and as I have said before if someone tells you of their pain it is usually to let you know you are not alone..... sometimes giving back support to these people helps us to feel better too - - lets hope there is room in the lifeboat for all of us or this is a sorry place to be. jmo.

Second - Pupp I know you are in a dark place and sometimes pushing people away is harder - much harder than letting them in - that can feel dangerous and scary - I know it does for me - the tendancy to isolate ourselves is always there ..... things can get better - its hard work - you ahve to keep getting up when it feels so much better to just lay down and let the world roll over you - you can do this - you can get past this - second by second if necessary - but it can be done.

I really hope things work out for you Pupp and for everyone else who is experiencing problems at the moment and I send and to Pupp and everyone else too