Hi Orange Blossom and others here at pc.com. We are pulling away some and for now that seems to be healthy. We used to spend around 18 hours a day online and it got exhausting.

I think things are better for us in some ways - we are calmer and we are beginning to have feelings and not freak over them, even just let them happen. We saw something sad on tv today and cried even though spouse was in the room.

Hardest thing is that we just keep wanting to push, push, push for change and we do not need to be doing that to us.

We still have so much we need to learn, grow and change, but for now we are being more honest and more real.

And as soon as we say all this, someone inside starts telling us why we just mis-spoke. We are not as well off if as we said, we are struggling with our meds and a need to be less dependent on them and how we need to work on exercise so we can replace on or both of our knees soon. Oh the joys of multiple opinions from a multiple perspective... hehe

Leslie and All the Rest