Yep, this is the same friend and the same son. I truly have been trying to turn over a new leaf and follow the golden rule if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. I'm normally very outspoken, she's known me for more years that I care to admit so she knows this about me.

We also have the 3 strikes rule here, as I've reminded her over and over again when she down plays his behavior. I did make the comment "this is an awful lot of responsibility for a new born to take on." Meaning 1) being responsible for making its parents grow up and 2) snapping its grandmother out of her "funk".

The problem, as I see it, is that she's unwilling to admit 80% of the time that the boy has serious problems. When the police come to check out the noise complaints from the fights, they (police and/or neighbors that complained) are picking on them. "Everyone has fights" yeah, but I've never had the police called because we're fighting so loud that we're disturbing the neighbors. I know for a fact that she gave him a false alibi during a breaking and entering last fall. She KNEW he did it, the stuff was in her house, but she's tired of "the idiots on the police force picking on him."

I just had to get off that phone or I was going to say something that was out of line.