EC, i've had time to think about your post and i'm adding to my previous post.

i cannot believe that you didn't intend to provoke when you chose your subject line. i also cannot believe that you haven't seen the forum here about abuse. so, i cannot believe that you weren't aware that there are a lot of women here, who have been abused....that would bring me to the conclusion, that you don't have to be a troll, to start something. i've seen your posts here and i've even replied to them, so i know you've been here a few months. and if you are so blind to the issues that abused women, men and young people bring to this forum, what on earth are you doing here? there have been some fairly nice answers to your stupid question and one post that really hit the bullseye.....this one probably lands in the middle. you need help. BIG TIME HELP...run, don't walk to a T, because you're going to be carted off to become someone's friend in the prison system...pat