Um...these guys need to be ditched. If they want other women...let them have them. Look how much pain they are causing you. Never love someone who cannot love you back. You may really love these guys...but these seem like they only know how to need. Develop some bullshet meters and trust what they say. They should be flashing a constant bright red just about now and he is trying to convince you that the light is green. Do not do this to yourselves. You know better!