SweetC, I understand completely where you're coming from, and what you need. Being bi-racial, as we both are, a forum where we could talk about the frustrations, hopes and complexities of dealing with our ethnicity on a daily basis would be great. And it could be an off-shoot of another forum. I know that neither of us, going into that type forum, are going there for controversy or any other negative deeds. Let me close this by saying something that is old as the hills, in southeastern Oklahoma, and still true. "You don't know a woman, til you've walked a mile in her moccasins." xoxox pat "You don't know a woman, til you've walked a mile in her moccasins." xoxox pat