I know for a fact she isnt being abused by her father anymore. But like you said, just living with him day to day has got to be enough abuse. I do agree I dont think she will stop cutting untill she's out. Her sisters wont take her in because when her father did that to her she got the police involved and it pissed off her dad. So all the kids had to hear about how snitching is bad and when dad says dont talk about it, you dont talk about it. She has no other family. I offered to take her in but she wont. I think getting the authorities involved wouldn't do much because if her father got in absolutly no trouble for what he did to her two yrs ago then I'm pretty sure he can wiggle his way out of it again. I dont know what to do yet. But something has to be done to help her. Thnx for the advice.