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Old Sep 05, 2009, 05:55 PM
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Ah ha, another real name. Sweet!
Hey Doug, (I like talking to real names.)

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.....is not vain and bitter equivalent to empathy and anger?
Why apologize for asking a question?
Oh... Yeah... Right... I forgot... That's one of the symptoms,... glad that ones gone for me.
Somebody deletes their stuff a lot. Before anybody gets a chance to look at it.
Bruce taps foot on floor “Stole that line from P7”

It's good to see that you're questioning, searching, and trying to understand yourself.

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....thoughts......experience..................and. .....psychological solution-s....that have given myself a place to start............and an awareness of the here and now.............
A place to start. So many haven't found a starting point yet. Don't even know how to try.

One thing:
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"If you compare yourself with others,you may become vain and bitter,for there will always be greater and lesser persons then your self."
Typo: should read.

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"If you compare yourself with others,you may become vain (or) bitter, for there will always be greater and lesser persons then your self."
He wrote Desiderata for himself, because in his words “it counsels those virtues I felt myself most in need of."
…...........To himself, for himself. Just like you are doing now.

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....PTSD symptom............everything is black and white.....to the extreme...........
I wrote this to Laura2 a couple of months ago. She was having weird feelings toward her T and she couldn't understand why.
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Everybody has feelings toward everybody else. They're just little feelings, they go on all the time. Kind of like background programming on a computer. Ordinarily their barely even noticeable, something turns up a little and you semi consciously turn it back down, or if the occasion is right, you might turn it up a bit. They're variable, like a dimmer switch on a light. So you have all these little emotional switches adjusting all the time, the more you get stressed, the harder they are to control.
With PTSD some of those switches get replaced with straight on/off switches. You can't control them. It”s like trying to maintain the speed limit in your car with the accelerator stuck to the floor and all you have to control your speed is the on off switch. That's why you see those post warnings (May Trigger). The writers know that it might flip somebodies switch.
She lost her friend, a security guard, in a shoplifting incident gone horribly wrong. He died in her arms.

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.....what that means to me is........MY anger and MY empathy are mine......not yours.............
What I thought about Laura, was that her feelings were really feelings toward her lost friend. T could have been anyone, just happened to be him....... Her feelings, her empathy. It really is “All about me”

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........in which rolls over to the saying about the glass......half full...half empty?...............neither.............its right in the middle................
“Living on the waterline”
The problem with the water glass saying is that it can be related to so many different circumstances, It really needs end with “as applied to” whatever.

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.............................or balance.....................................

.....working with ptsd........or embracing.............

.....I need to be aware of what in my life needs balance....

.....and what in my life.......I can take to extremes........

......I need balance with empathy and anger.......no extremes

......and extremes........problem or solution.....the choice is mine....

......this is embracing and owning ptsd.........my gift..................


I am aware that I must work threw these complexities of life to love the simple me ..................today......................... ..
“Question of balance“ sounds Moody Blues-ish.
The journey to self understanding
Just another step along the way.

“Empathy” is using our own self understanding to relate to other people. I can empathize with anyone without comparing, “it's relating” there's a difference. When you write something, I kind of know how you feel through the words you write. That's all.



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Again and again the Master would be
seen to discourage his disciples
from depending on him,for this
would prevent them from contacting
the inner Source.

He was often heard to say,"Three*
things that when too close
are harmful,when too far are useless
and are best kept at middle distance:
fire,the government and the guru."
Condensed version... Oh, I gotta use this... (jmo)
Master:
Understand I speak the truth
But don't believe in me
believe in yourself.

….................
Thanks for this!
phoenix7, white_iris