Doc John or a Mod
I hate to be the bad guy but can we have this thread closed
it seems to me that it is starting to offend some
by causing them to think they are the ones being talked about in
this thread when my guess is that was not the original intent
as you are well aware a lot of us have already very low self esteem
and well I do not think it is helping to keep this one going

Sorry if this offends anyone and I am not trying to tell
anyone what they should or should not do here it is
just a suggestion