I never hated you and never said such, and you have PMs of my support and trying to help you. That's part of the issue here, MIss_A, you rarely asked for help, but when you did we all gave you ideas and support and then you turned around and posted like you know everything, and ignored what members here were trying to help you with, and then began deliberately flaming members, I guess all in your mind of forcing DocJohn's hand. I don't believe you are the typical teenager. We are a patient group, in reality, but we all have limited patience and energy, and when another member seems to be using us, it grinds. But hate? IMO the only thing hated here was your - hating that there isn't a teen forum to play in.