i'd like to say that i hung with you for a very long, long time, only to have you turn on me, over and over. it didn't make any difference what your problem was or what we suggested, it never suited you. we really, really tried. i stood up for you, publicly, and even said i'd moderate a teen forum...so you would have a place to be. i became worried about our spending so much time here and i talked to you about that. kids need to be kids. i wish you luck and happiness at the new forum. pat