((((((Zen))))) I would kind of like to know who all these fabulous strong people are who think you're needy when you post. Is this not PS? Is this no where we can go and BE NEEDY for crying out loud? You know, what I seeis two things. Like lynn says, I see a person who has gone through***t and can still be coherent, but has a few issues that keep coming back. And they will, dear, because deep wounds take a long time to heal. You'll ahve to keep coming back to them until you've gotten it cleaned out, disinfected and properly bandaged, and we are here to help you do that, just like I hope you will help me when - not if- I melt down. Also, I see someone making progress with all the resources she's got, and it makes me really happy to read it. So please keep posting. I think your response was completely inline, except for the apologies. Ok. end sermon. Keep up the good, hard work and don't apologize for sounding off here. You haven't been insulting or profane, it's just depression saying it's your fault that "they" can't handle you. It's bunk. Now go out there and get'em