I am glad to see this thread. Suicidal ideation is a problem for many of us at PC and I do think it needs to be addressed sometimes and not ignored. It's just that there is such a fine line between suicidal ideation and actions and it's hard to determine where someone is at, especially on-line. I wonder what, or who, determines what is ok to talk about and what is not. I know there is some question in chat rooms. Maybe a moderator or Doc John could help us with language, so we can discuss it but keep it safe.