i feel strongly about this.....if you do go to bed with him, the friendship will be over with. it will slowly wither, from the guilt and the feeling of shame. i'm not just talking about you, seeker, i'm talking about all old "friends' who 'test' the waters, so to speak.........xoxoxo pat p.s. and i don't think that because he is a judge, that he is more of an expert on 'right and wrong'. men are men, are men, are men.......women are women.........sex is sex.