I can't agree more with the statement about you courage in going and your value to this forum. You know, Berries, so many of the Bip. folks I know who work in Health care are "over achievers" who would rather die than let other people know how badly they were doing. I had my own complicated self/other deception system going that kep me out of the hospital system when actually it would have been best for me if I was taken in for treatment. It doesn't mean that you can take for granted that they are actually so different than you. You might just be more honest