I have to say I have been watching the Brat Camp series since the day it aired! I think their program for troubled kids is amazing. Yes I do agree the boot camp types may not be all they are cracked up to be. I know kids that have been to those in my area and are no better off. That is torture. I think the Sage Walk group really gets these kids to thinking about why they are there. I applaud them. Boot camps? no way. Sage Walk is a totally different kind of camp. To have watched this show from the beginning I have to say some of the kids are making really good progress. Just my 2cents worth.