myzen, in all of the time that i worked with disturbed teens, i never once raised my voice. i didn't have to. i provided strict discipline, love and respect. i always found something to respect in every child. even if it was the way he/she walked. i found something in there.

i still am not sure that the "Brat Camp" should have been televised, but that doesn't make me any less supportive of an environment where these children receive discipline, responsibilites and respect.

my daughter is married and has a child. stella was born three months early and my daughter dealt with that so maturely and naturally. she told me that the camp taught her that there was no obstacle too big for her to handle. AND her counselor never, ever raised his voice or compromised the group's dignity. that's all i have to say about this. pat