I agree with Pat, Artist & Seeker....."it takes 2 to tango". If both are in agreement, a second honeymoon would be a place to start.....making is like the first one if that is what the first one was like. I'm like seeker....never was part of the marriage...& with plans of divorce, never will be either. I gave up on more than just that, but agree with the talking to the wall.....he has been the wall for 30 years.....I'm just too tired of it all to even care any more.

I hope you never get to that point,
Debbie