There is the added problem that when we are depressed, the depression insists that the negative pictures that one has of oneself ARE realistic. The only thing I have found that works for me is 1) ask myself how I can be the only person on the face of the earth who has NO good points and 2) read a bunch of these posts. After a while, you see a pattern, and the pattern is caused by the illness. Huggs all, and good posts, sanity seeker!