Thank you for sharing your pain and your humour... we so relate to the 'mule headed' explanation

and for emphasizing that 'timing' is a very important factor in all this...that you are and we are all for, at some stage in the process and another at other stage in the process...sometime we lose heart when those who would have us fit their 'time' schedule...it is like re-abuse saying...come on hurry-up forgive, forgive...we thank you for saying ten years...we too are over ten years but total if you count the other years...even more and we getting there and some forgiveness came already but WE NEED ROOM TO HEAL and room in this case means TIME They abuse and then go tsk, tsk, tsk, not healed yet. We say stop pushing! They no want to listen so we say don't listen then...but if you want to help, do your part and either 'put up' or 'shut up'

Even laxatives have their place but not forcing...even though we appreciate the wonder book and your even more wonderful input, Anderson...they don't see we are trying not to push ourself faster than we can go. We even have to say STOP pushing to ourself/ves.

Better to never have abuse happen in first place!!! That will be the greatest, but in meantime

Thank you again for sharing here Anderson...take care

This time factor we believe is a the God factor....he never giving more than we can handle. Relief...as we give you grace to take time to unlearn and learn...we feel the society sometimes rushes us and we never measure-up...not only we not protected from original abuse but they say, hurry-up you never good enough till you forgive...we know it is a hope and prayer and goal...we not stupid!