Farmer girl, yeah, that's how we have had to handle some stuff, though not religious. eventually folks start gettting the picture.
Elysium: "Freedom has the scent like the to of a newobrn baby's head", from one of U2's songs. Love that line, but one wonders,
what abstract concept smells like the other end?
No, really. I think it's really tough trying to get one's feelings respected at times, especially when one side is sure it's right (and I KNOW mine is).