So today I stood up for myself and other newcommers who are trying to stay sober with the help of AA. Today the leader was the epitome of everything Down hates. I had to speak up to keep the people who are desperate enough to get sober from getting up and leaving and never coming back and turning into crotchety people with drinking problems, who have lost all their hopes and dreams who refuse to see that there is the life they want if they truly want it.

Down, I am asking you as a human being, because I truly hope you have some humanity left, to PLEASE DROP THIS. If you care AT ALL about the people who come here seeking help to quit drinking and get some control of their lives, if you give a shread of crap about any one of us, please lay off and take your hate elsewhere. Does it really matter how we chose to get sober? In the grand scheme of things, does it affect your life in any way that people like me and Bama and countless others have some happiness in our lives? Do dislike us so much that you care nothing about what happens to us? Honestly, how does our believe in 12 step programs directly have any consequence to you? If you don't want to see people succeeding with the help of AA and NA, then DON'T COME HERE AND READ IT! If you don't have a problem with alcohol or drugs, why do you come to this board?? What is the point of lashing out at the one thing that has helped us to attain some happiness? You can't come to a support forum of you don't care about it's members. And you don't care about any of us. You have some resentment towards AA or NA and it's not our fault. I am sticking up for us and the rest of the people who come here seeking help. We don't preach program to everyone who comes here asking help about how to stop drinking. We believe in attraction rather then promotion. We do it because it helps US, not you. If you care anything about us, lay off. Take your opinions to a 12 step hating board, not here. Have respect for the fact that the entire world does not think like you and never will. Just stop.

Rayna