I can see you are letting this thread get to you a bit with the exclamation mark....! I wouldn't let it affect you so much.

Now as far as I have read no violence has taken place just the threat of 'you are not too old to be spanked' remark (I have a twenty one year old and I use the threat of over my knee its not serious and everyone knows its not even if I am mad at him when I say it).

Fox is obviously scared of moving away from home at the moment so I don't see the sense in pushing Fox into something they are scared of. Out of the frying pan and into the fire saying springs to mind.

Maybe we should try to help fox build a better relationship with their father and helping Fox to stand up to him a bit in the right way rather than encouraging Fox to 'move out' at the moment.

Fox has said repeatedly that they are scared of moving out and really couldn't do that at the moment.