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Old Mar 31, 2010, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by dfh932 View Post
But, having said that, my H is kind of broken too. But he is a kind man and he loves me. We've been together for a long time, and there is a world inside of me that he doesnt know.

But I THINK he would love me (all of me) if i let him in and i'm working on trusting him, and trusting T.

...we just try to meet in the middle without destroying each other or totally pushing each other away every second.
thank you for your honesty, dfh. i think it's nice that your H would like you, all of you, if you only showed him. it sounds really complicated if he is hurting for some reason too. is it safe where you are? like, even if there is a disconnect and a lot of hard work, is it at least safe? or is that what you mean by your H being kind of broken too?

im sorry if my q's are too personal. tell me and i'll back off. but i appreciate your honesty so much .

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Originally Posted by pachyderm View Post
I see it as just a person saying something that is true for him, that he finds you difficult sometimes. He is not handling that well, and you see that as a threat, rather than as a simple statement of his shortcomings. I guess you do not want to see that he has shortcomings. Because if he does, how can he help you???

At least, looking at how I react, that is how I interpret it. Because I tend to react the same way and have to work hard to see what it all means...
thanks for this interpretation, pachy. to me it is actually safer when i don't see pdoc/austin-t aren't as perfect beings, when i can see that they have their shortcomings also. i think this particular comment was difficult because it's been said to me so often in the past that it becomes a case of being my shortcoming instead.
i think what you're saying could be right though too - that it's partly his shortcomings also. i think that's what pdoc was trying to say yesterday. that makes it a lot safer for me to return if i can think "Austin-t doesnt know how to deal with me because i present a challenge he's not used to dealing with" rather than "i've always been a difficult person and here's another person who's wiping their hands of me".

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Originally Posted by darkrunner View Post
The thing about the meds scares me. Have you ever thought about getting rid of that stash? I wish you would. Having that kind of thing around can serve no good purpose.
That does not cross any boundaries, I promise it doesn't. He still gets to set his own boundaries, because he can choose not to read it until a certain time, or to call or not to call, etc.
thank you dark runner. i got rid of some of the meds last night - a lot of them had passed expiry. ive kept the ones which are still ok, just because my meds change all the time & it's a bit of a ping pong to predict which ones i'll be using next. they cost a lot of money (for the government) so i don't think it's right to throw them away and possibly need them again in the future and then have to get a refill. i understand where you're coming from, though. truth be told however i don't really need a stash of meds if i was hell bent on hurting myself. my current med (and MAOI) and a bottle of soy sauce would do the trick.
i am scared about pdoc calling back. i made him promise before that if he wanted to get rid of me he had to call me and let me know on a voicemail, and he promised, so i'm scared. but then i started thinking it's better to know over the phone where i'm safe rather than next week if i see him and maybe not be safe. i know that's sucky thinking (kind of) but it feels real to me also. it would make sense to me if he wanted to hurt me because of what i wrote in my letter.
but i also think that maybe pdoc won't hurt me because he didn't do it last year when i told him stuff about dad, so maybe he won't. he was nice to me last year so maybe he'll be ok this time also. i don't know. but i think if he calls again then maybe i'll pick up so i can find out for sure.
thank you for telling me about the boundaries thing. when i first started seeing him i was very careful to never contact him between sessions - we used to see each other every 3 months and even if i really needed him i made sure i waited those 3 months before i said anything. so it's scary because i don't know if it's right to contact him now. he gave me his number a while back but it still is difficult to know how much is too much. but i feel more ok about the letter now, thank you. i'll fret about the phone calls at a different time .

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Originally Posted by WeepingWillow23 View Post
I understand the 'logic' behind you thinking this as I frequently perform the same 'acrobatic thinking' myself. I'm rarely right when I think this though, if that helps?
this does help, actually, thank you!

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I also wanted to say that I frequently read your posts but rarely respond. I don't do this to mess with your head by jacking up your 'read numbers' but not your 'post numbers' (honest! ) I guess I never feel like I have anything of value to add, especially as you have such great friends here who always give you such great support/advice. The reason I follow your posts is because I admire what you have achieved wading through the sludge of depression and a less-than-ideal childhood eg finishing your degree, branching out on your own etc. And also I find your writing style so honest, refreshing and often insightful. You certainly aren't hard to connect with online! I enjoy reading about your life, even though I don't know you, because it usually resonates with me. I hope you don't mind.
*Willow*
thank you for saying all of this, willow. i'm so scared of indifference i guess that it doesn't occur to me that people don't post for other reasons. in my head there are many people who read this thread (or whatever i post) and just go "eh..." and move onto a different thread. i feel really vulnerable putting myself out here. ive never really thought that what i write might resonate with other people, so im touched if something i say connects with you also. that makes me feel nice to know you are reading even if you don't say anything now. but for what it's worth i've also really appreciated your posts to me in the past; i remember them even if you don't post frequently.

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Originally Posted by jexa View Post
deli, I too really like pdoc's metaphor about the armor and austin-T being the sword. Wow, that really fits well with what you have described about them so far. Oh my gosh I actually have tears in my eyes. I am just really touched by pdoc's metaphor..
yes, i really liked what he said with that, it does work so much within the context of how we all work together. and it meant so much when he said he was the shield & armour - i've said before that pdoc is my protector - but to hear him say the same thing made me feel good to know he sees himself the same way. he returned to the metaphor later in the session and fleshed it out more, and then he got embarrassed and told me he used to be one of those "dungeons & dragons" kids, so maybe he was letting his enthusiasm get a bit ahead of him (he had started getting all technical about warring strategy). pdoc's really cute when he blushes.

thank you everyone for helping me through this. i thought i would be more of a mess but i think i did most of my crying on monday after seeing austin-t. i feel nice that i could give pdoc that note even after our crappy session, it means i still trust him heaps. not sure about his response, and im scared about next week, but thankfully it's easter this weekend and uni goes on break for a week, and it's sunny today so i'm feeling more ok.