Hi Peri,

Nothing to be sorry for, nothing at all. You made a good post.

I guess I was venting a little of my own frustration, which happens now and then. It's been a long road.

I'm interested in what you said about 'mind chatter'. The buddhists call this 'arising thoughts' which I think that everyone has to some extent. What seems to happen in depression and anxiety disorders is that the mind chatter becomes somehow toxic, and hurtful. It also becomes more intrusive. I still believe that we can learn to stop ourselves identifying with the thoughts, but it takes a big effort. First we need to be able to separate our thoughts into what we choose to accept and what we choose to disregard. This would be a tall order even for a healthy person, but it is utterly necessary for us to achieve this IMHO, by whatever means.

This is both an interesting and a challenging subject.

Good thoughts, M

PS - I've just noticed that I like to sign off with 'good thoughts' or 'peaceful thoughts' in my posts. That kind of says it all!