I have the support of all you at PC and that gives me hope. I am just going to hang up the next time I hear her voice. Well, first I'm going to say "I WON'T take your abuse" and then I'll hang up. I have to do this. I have talked to my T. It's not being rude. I see that now. It's also not being a doormat to hang up. It's an old old pattern, like T says. I CAN break it.n I WILL stop it.