WELL ... I've looked at everything I have so far thought to check. I turned off microsoft security (I'm using avast full time and lavasoft on request.) The windows defender was an additional element I didn't need, but there's no official "off" on it (thanks Gates.)

I've checked what I have from the chat page here, and everything is listed and accepted (supposedly) images (icons) etc.

I've checked and updated my adobe, flash player, java...

I've checked to be sure that Avast has the chat and forum address allowable.

I can get in chat through the no pop up tab. But I have pop ups allowed here. (Is there some places to check for additional block settings?)