Thanks all, again My T says my brain is "frying" from all the stress (you know how they have to use OUR language once in a while, to get through to patients?) So I'm chillin tonight... see him (and physical therapist) tomorrow again. THEN I think he will "order" rest. Not sure that includes coming here. Hope I remember to ask him. Thanks again... pain is easily 8+ spiking back into 10 often... muscles won't relax enough to let the bones be "forced" even back in place. grrrrrrrr (((((())))) to my virtual friends.