Moose - I'm curious to know what's being stirred up in you from all this. It seems as though you want to "win" an argument, but there does not need to be a winner or loser. Or, that you are trying desperately to be heard, understood, have your points validated.

What Rainbow chooses to do or how she feels is hers to own. Certainly exploration is worthwhile, but I find that I would be more receptive to "difficult to hear" feedback when it's delivered in a caring and compassionate way.

Just curious if this topic (or even just the general tone of the exchange, regardless of the actual content) has stirred up something within your own life that is helping you to feel so passionate about it, that may be worth exploring.