Thank you for that. I guess the nub of the problem is the DEPTH of the Bipolar Depressions. I never cease to be amazed at how sick I get and how quickly, like the bottom falling out of a paper bag. I guess I could cop having this serious illness and all the horrific life losses that occur, if I COULD manage these Bipolar Depressions (I guess that's a parallel to my AA experience). I appreciated that you acknowledged that there are some of us who DO put in 110%. Often on these boards and others the response to the post I made is try harder, it'll get better, there's a reason to all this etc. While those things might be true for some it's not for others. And also that you acknowledged that there is a difference in severity, I think, for any given psychiatric illness. So, again, some people even who have Bipolar may make blithe comments about sitting it out or think positively or whatever and it makes me feel worse. Thanks again, I appreciate your post.