I have a lot of warped feelings regarding conventional relationships and ultimately matrimony. I believe it's unfair to make someone put up with me and claim to love him in the same breath. (was "involved" with my best friend,and made him hit the road last week for this exact reason...) Who knows, maybe when I learn to master my bp, I won't be so needy and guilt ridden over being needy, and then maybe then, I can be as brave as you. BUT I wouldn't hold my breath guys, as warped as my thinking/feeling is, they run pretty deep... Sorry for hijacking your thread