Oh yeah!

Am there myself now - well, except for the "I can accept myself and at least tolerate myself" - not sure I have ever got to that point, not really.

I was saying to someone yesterday that logically I can see that I am not obnoxious, but emotionally I FEEL obnoxious, and the two don't match up. The emotions outweigh the logic, so that feels bad, but also I have this intense struggle going on internally, with the contradictory messages.

I know where those messages come from for myself. I think you have to find out for you where they come from. Mine came from years of never being good enough for my parents' high expectations and from having to parent my parents. And some other stuff too. But you are right, in my experience, that this is a common feeling for depressives.

Caroline