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Old Sep 19, 2010, 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Rhiannonsmoon View Post
They do not label because they have not the knowledge to forsee whether it will worsen or improve. This was one of the first things I learned as a therapist. Fading is not out growing, healing is not outgrowing it is actually healing. It is not possible to outgrow mental illness. Syndromes however are a different class of problem and is not considered an illness. Syndromes have a known cause which is possible to not just go into remission but to right itself. Again this is not outgrowing.

With all due respect, children who show symptoms of depression are many times more likely to develop teen or adult onset depression or any other mental illness, in particular anxiety and depression. Childhood schizophrenia does not abate completely and there are no numbers to show that it does. Having worked extensively with children in my supervised licensing hours we were schooled in answering questions asked by parents in regard to if their child would ever get better and be free of the illness. If an educated guess were formed and then turned out to be incorrect the possibility of being sued by the parents is very high.

In particular regard to asking a therpaist to look at everything including "they can take an educated guess" this is guesswork only and not proof that a mental illness will go away. Looking at background and family history does not indicate one way or another what might happen. This leaves the door open to litigation and no therapist is going to tread the water in a minefield; this was one of the areas covered in "Establishing A Practice".
that may be so where you are. In my home state as a child I was not diagnosed with certain problems the reasons given on my file stated "this state does not recognize amanda's diagnosis of childhood schizophrenia, in minor children due to the fact that this is a mental disorder in which can be outgrown and disappear once a child with this diagnosis reaches adulthood, therefore we must call it PTSD with psychotic features of hallucinations and delusional thoughts, in order that she may receive the appropriate funds and treatment options that will maximize her healing process."

here in the state that I am we have been told by insurance, the state board that governs mental health agencies and their therapists, psychiatrists and interns and our supervisors and bosses that this state does not recognize any forms of schizophrenia and any personality disorders in children, the reason given by all is that these mental disorders can be outgrown by children once they reach adulthood.

yes I know its guesswork. if you reread my post you will see I did say they cannot guarantee. they can only make an educated guess based on family history and the persons own mental and physical health history. it only leaves the therapist open to litigation if the therapist states the person will be cured without a doubt. here we dont state that. when a client asks anyone here if they will ever outgrow or be cured, we look at their family history and their own background with them and tell them whether its a possibility, no guarentees. this does not leave the agency nor the therapists, psychiatrists and interns here open to any litigations. we dont say yes you will be cured on such and such a date. we just tell them the truth based on their family history of so and so and so and so who had these same problems and theirs went away theres a *possibility* anything is possible.

You need to remember that here on psych central we dont all come from the same states, countries or continents. not every state, nor country nor continent follows the same rules. what goes on for me and the state Im in or the state I come from may not be what your experience and your state is like.

here it is believed children do outgrow certain mental disorders.