i am startin to warm to this thread now, it is helpin me realise i cant be everones friend, not everyone will like me or understand me. its actually quite a good tool to help me deal with the real world, the internet is a democracy in the extreme which sometimes can be a bad thing, but we have to have faith in the good things that a democracy provides. used in the right way ( i think this thread is one of em) we can all become better people and learn to accept not ignore the differences between us. keep this thread goin people, lets exercise our freedom of speech. i see this thread as what is is now, its a bloody good debate that we all can all learn from thx for sharin your views guys i'm a better person for it.