Oh Dottie, It feels like the more the boundaries the greater the rebellion. They do not see themselves in this light at all. It's weird, they think they do so much etc. Their brains are wired selfish right now. I would gladly love to see the girl and cats go!!!!

Honestly, my son sees himself as a perpetual victim, never his fault. I think he is starting to grow and BAM, back again. So it's easier for me to be Zen here. Yup, what a mess, what a bunch of dopes, oh yeah, cat pee. I guess it helps to be taking this attitude.

just as a funny I offered them on my freecycle site. I am sure it will get caught before it is published but it was fun. I said they came with all accessories including cats. Made me chuckle.

Dottie, I think of my friend Jane and try to hear what she would say if they were her brats. I think she would also choose her battles and try to accept they will grow up some day. In fact, her son was quite the little devil at this age, until he was 27 eeks!!!! It helps to talk about it and have someone else say that they are being idiots.