Thanks, I read the poem from VL,and that thread, then reread the thread about reasons not to. I'm going to keep trying not to. I thought I couldn't hold out any longer, but after reading all this I'm thinking twice about starting again. The idea that it won't solve anything, and that the relief will only be temporary helps, as does the acknowledgement that it's an addictive behavior, and the scars will last a life time. I guess I'll try to find a way to redirect these feelings. Maybe some journaling or cleaning, just need to keep busy a while, til the feelings go down.

Quay