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Originally Posted by SophiaG
Do you think that there are some people, that no matter how hard they try to get better, they can't, not because they don't want to, just because, they lack whatever it is needed to change.
Whenever someone says "they have to want to change." in response to someone that has a mental illness, I want to say to them "but what if inherently they cant change?
I've watched several episodes of intervention and it's absolutely heartbreaking when at the end of an episode you learn that the person has relapsed and has fallen back into their old ways...
Do you believe that some people just truely can't change? Even if they have the best psychotherapist, psychotherapy, combination of drugs ect.
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I believe as human beings everyone has the ability to mke their own positive and negative choices, and with those positive and negative choices comes the rewards and consequences of making those choices.
yes I believe there are mental disorders that are uncurable and pose life long challenges for people.
But even in those situations there are treatment options that can allow the person to be systematic free. it may take years and a decade for some to find the right options for them but the person with these problems has to choose for their self whether they want to be free of those symptoms and they have to choose whether they want to work with their treatment providers, it does no good if a person for example is hearing voices but every time they see their doctors they make the choice to say no I dont hear voices, everything is great, life is sunshine and roses for me.
It is true that it takes time to find the right combo of meds per person, But the person has to want to and choose to take the medication and take it consistently every day as prescribed in order to benefit from their symptoms fading and in time they can be symptomatic free.
I think about mentally illness like a normal person making the choice to eat one slice of chocolate cake vs sitting there eating the whole three layer cake. if you want to sit there and eat that cake no person telling you dont eat the whole cake, no diet plans, no medications no surgeries are going to make any difference. the person has to want to get into shape and willfully stop eating that whole three layer cake and choose to follow their doctors approved plan for eating responsibly.
sometimes in life there are challenging obstacles that need to be worked out. using the above example the person having chosen not to eat that whole three layer cake might not be able to lose weight as fast as they want because they are on medication.
but even for this there is a choice. For every medication that causes weight gain theres medication that does not have weight gain as a side effect. the person must choose whether or not they want to discuss the problem with their treatment providers, and they must also choose whether or not they want to try other medications, and they must choose whether or not they want to keep working with their treatment providers until they get the best medication for them.
I believe for everything in life we as human beings have the capability to change the negatives in our life to the positives. sure there are people who have relapses. no body ever promised us there would never be any relapses, even with physical health a person can relapse and their problems may come back, time and time again
but again as human being we have the capability to think and make our own choices. Some people choose to drop out of therapy, some people choose to not take their meds any more, some people choose to self sabotage their own capabilities of having a better life, possibly because being ill is all they have ever known,
but we all have a free thinking brain to make these life altering choices. some choices alter our lives for the worst and other choices that we make alter our lives for the better.
a note about all the reality shows out there, when I watch them I take into consideration that those on these shows are in a very protected environment. take the biggest loser. thats a show about obese people getting back into shape. while they are confined to the property that serves as the show setting these people have limited options for food, and they are put on a very rigorous exercise program most dont have access to when they leave that setting. so of course they are going to naturally gain back some of the weight they lost while on the show once they are back home and theres no fancy gym with all the balls, treadmills swimming pools and someone including all of america watching over them every mouthfull of food they eat.
theres also the ratings. theres an element that the public doesnt see with these shows. you dont see the survivors being pulled aside and told what to do and told others plans of actions, you dont see them being pulled aside and told make this as calm or dramatic as you can, you dont see the people being pulled aside and being told we want this to look like you are getting your life in control so that we can show the viewers how good this show is and how positively we are helping you all. theres out takes that show these people relapse even in the protective settings of the shows.
After I saw alec baldwin and the shows producer of an adictions like show on a talk show telling all these behind the sceens stuff we dont get to see, I stopped watching all these reality type shows. they are not real life, they are good entertainment,
in real life people do have relapses, in fact its a part of the healing process to have relapses and learn how to handle those times.
my advice when watching such shows keep in mind they are meant for entertainment purposes not a replacement for real life. and they dont represent 100 percent real life. on every one of those kinds of shows they are going to give you both positive and negative updates. like I tell some of my clients - if your not ready to handle both the positive and the negatives with such shows why watch them, putting on a positive show where you know you will like the out come would be much less stressful for yourself.
and there again its all about making your own decisions in life and reaping the rewards and consequences of those choices. every one has free will to make changes or not, choose positives vs negative choices.