thank you Racee, for being so knowledgeble and willing to share~! i really don't know what to tell you, Crysalis, except,, Keep Posting, and when you have 5 in the forums you can come to the live chats and the Hosted Chats, which are about topics,, you can learn more from the Calendar button on your profile page. sometimes just having some one to talk to helps so much~! best wishes on getting some relief for both yourself, and your partner~!! Gus