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Originally Posted by phoenix7
Myers i hope yo dont mind me butting in as i am neither ASPD or have treated someone with that diagnosis - but this conversation has caught my attention and im ver yinterested in the following.....
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Of course I don't mind. Thank you kindly for your input.
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ive read a little of Albert Ellis Rational emotive therapy - discussed it wiht my therapist (past) who gave me some tapes to listen to and a book to read - he seems to advocate saying what you feel - wouldnt this be bad for an ASPD? if there feelings were less than cordial.....
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I'll answer this one, if you don't mind. REBT is actually one of the preferred psychotherapies for antisocial behavior. It challenges the antisocials rigid beliefs of entitlement and teaches them to have a more flexible demeanor. If they can see a situation with a different attitude, they're less likely to react as violently or aggressively as they often do.
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I have a great fondness for transactional analysis as knowing about all parts of the personality lead to a better understanding of self. :end quote
I agree that would be helpful in any case - and if the person was actively looking for help (and Myers you can help me wiht this part ) would they then be honest wiht the therapist and this would work or would they stil feel compelled to test their wits agains t the therapist - i guess each case is different ...
if it was court ordered i can see a problem in that they may never let the Therapist know them if they do not wish to be helped.
just a few thoughts and questions......
P7
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For the vast majority of circumstances, a psychopath or antisocial will only go into therapy if court ordered, seeking medication, or trying to get disability benefits. In some rare cases, they'll go in for curiosity. But, still thinking they don't need help, they will only stick around for the diagnosis. Even though I go to therapy willingly (or would, if any therapist would take me...), I still think there's nothing wrong with me. And I'm also reluctant to take advice unless it conforms to my ideas.
In my experience with other psychopaths and antisocials as well as my own experience with therapy... They're always trying to outwit or outdo someone, especially therapists. Since most of them are in therapy under less than innocent circumstances, they see the therapist as either an enemy (who could recommend that they be thrown in prison) or an obstacle (that they need to manipulate in order to get meds or money). Or, like the psychopathic patient who drove his therapist insane, they might just do it for fun.
I actually have a few accounts of psychopaths and antisocials in therapy, but I'll have to ask their permission before I can post it...