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I am convinced that every person CAN DETECT at least one reason which lead her in such condition. We should know exactly why we gave up and - we usualy do.

But, to release ourselves we need the strenght to accept the existance of certain problem, ability to identify it exactly and readiness to cut it of and throw it away. This is the hard part of story.

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For me, it can't be just one thing that I need to find... and it is beyond myself to identify anything.. as with the level of depression I am in... it's everything. It isn't simple... and surely isn't easy, imo, for me.... Your statement doesn't apply to me... I don't have that hope you have... and surely don't agree with the black and white viewing you suggest... but understand that thatmight be how you have any hope,, yourself

For me, right now, I linger on near immobility (up) to where I am right now... I know things in my mind..but they don't apply to/for me

Apathy, numbing, flat affect yes.... all that... major depression. People who haven't been there don't understand. (But I don't wish it upon anyone just so they understand!)