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I'm upset because here is an opportunity to learn about how your kids' generation REALLY thinks, so that you can make the most of what is available in your relationship with them. You responded by implying that your kids are selfish and ungrateful, and then cried about how they don't want to be around you. You similarly alienated me. If we were to draw a pattern out of this, I'd say that you will continue to get your feelings hurt each holiday, because you're not doing a whole lot to figure out what WILL work with your kids. I know that you feel like you're making some compromises, but honestly, when I read the first few posts in this thread, I got a big sense of "it's got to be MY way or else I'm going to get upset, loudly".

Yes, it IS a two-way street, Sept. That's what I was trying to say to you earlier, and somehow it got deflected.

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I agree I had a GREAT mom and dad we had awesome Walton like Christmases and Traditional family values..I FEEL like because we did not 100% agree....our INPUT was dismissed especially youre LMO and that makes me sad you deserve better ...for anyone to say...we "don't get it" because we don't agree to me sez they do not want the input of certain age groups and posters ....This took a sad turn maybe input should be qualified now on as to not have such a thing happen...Head slapping wall banging over someomes supportive post makes me sad to see