LMo, respectfully, I have to again say "you don't get it." It's NOT at all ALL about any of what you mentioned in your diatribe.

I'm sorry I touched a raw never with you. As for what you mentioned, I have found it true that the younger generation does disregard or doesn't hold as important the values of the older generation, specifically, when it comes to their immediate family. It's not just MY kids. I couldn't give you a rats *** about what is and isn't happening in "society."

And no, there was never anyone that I didn't want to be around that I HAD to be around... except my granmother, but I was too young to have a choice then (she lived with us) and when I reached the age of majority, I didn't KNOW why I couldn't stand her. That came many, many years after her death.

As for refusing to visit my half-syblings on holidays, that doesn't count. We weren't and had NEVER been "family." We just had the same sperm donor, different incubators. No, wait! My mother WAS a Mom. Theirs committed suicide while pregnant because she was gay and was sick of having sex with a man and getting pregnant.

Just because your T is in her 60's doesn't make her any more an authority on the "older generation" than it does me. Your T must be of the same mind as the one that convinced my daughter to NOT try to confront me with her problems with me but rather convinced her to not even speak to me ever again!

What you don't get and don't understand are the values *I*, ME, Tomi, taught my kids and that the fact that the whole trouble was about ME, MY feelings, how *I* felt. What you have gotten is how the problem applies to you. I hope you have learned something about you and your family dynamics through all this. I really resent the implication that *I* may be narcissitic, controlling and critical of my kids. You don't know enough about me to make even an "implication" in that direction.

IMO, you are projecting the problems you have with your parents on me. That's not fair. Maybe you need to rethink the whole thing if you want to come away with some wisdom and knowledge.