Thanks grace. You are right about that. He does go to a t but it seems that he needs more. He is unwilling to do more at this time though and that makes it hard to stand back and watch him self destruct. We have beat our heads against the proverbial brick wall trying to get people to listen, to no avail. He is calmer now, having taken out his agression and survived yet again the suicide ideation and attempts. We sit with baited breath until the next round, praying continuously.