yes. and the kind of therapy that is likely to help one get to the 'non-fear point'

i appreciate that cognitive therapy / rational emotive beahviour therapy helps some people to get to that point...

or that it helps some people get to that point regarding some of their emotional states...

but i also think that it is far from the end of the story.

and so for those people out there who find that cognitive restructuring / challenging of beliefs doesn't really help change ones emotional response...

well...

they are not alone.

thats all i meant to say really.
they are not alone.
and they are not freaks or anything.
because everybody experiences this with some of their emotional responses
and some people experience this with the emotional responses that are the most distressing to them...

and...

people are still working on this (thank god)
and therapies that are more in line with the recent empirical findings are still being developed (thank god)

:-)

and...

if some therapist ever tries to tell you that you simply MUST endorse these 'irrational beliefs' BY DEFINITION... And that if you say 'look I really don't think I do...' then they tell you 'well, then you endorse them unconsciously then...' and if they ever try to tell you that those 'irrational beliefs' are the CAUSE of your distress...

and they disregard your phenomenology...

well... that is their ignorance and the empirical findings actually follow the phenomenology more than their assumptions...