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I suspect it would be hard to know when a push is needed or just active listening

</div></font></blockquote><font class="post"> Isn't that one of the reasons we pay a therapist, to figure this out for us

IMO using RET or CBT (any type of cognitive behavioral therapy) isn't an overnight change, anyway. It's doing a lot of what I think witt is doing... questioning, learning the lists, allowing the idea of change.. but maybe moreso too.. I know that I know the CBT common distortions... did that change how I respond to these held beliefs? not automatically... it's the knowing such thoughts only do myself harm..and allowing the mind/myself.. to accept it and change over the long haul.