I have had spider veins for some time (purplish black or can be dark red for some, but smooth under the skin, typically not painful and if you run your fingers over them pressing down slightly, in a swift motion, they will disappear as you go is an indication of spider veins) but am starting on varicose now (bumpy purple and can ache). I have an appointment to see what can be done and based on the info whether or not I can go through with it. Thanks Lynn for that info. Am nervous about closing off veins and injections for something so superficial/cosmetic, but they are unsightly and can be painful now so not completely cosmetic. It is really only me that cares so we'll see.